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Treatments for MS?

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  1. Muddi

    Muddi New Member

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    Hi

    I have never treat anybody with MS before so would like a bit of advice please. A potential client has been in touch wanting to know if I can help her with her condition, so have told her I will do a bit of research first and get back to her as Im not sure if I can help or not. If I cant I would like to be able to point her in the right direction of treatments that may help that I dont offer..

    This is the message she sent me:

    I have MS , and I suffer from all sorts of symptoms, could do with some advice on what treatments would help. I was having regular massage, but now I'm getting electric shock sensations up & down my spine I can't have anyone touch my back. And my neck muscles are spastic, they barely move

    If anyone has any advice etc I would be very grateful..

    would she be able to have maybe an indian head type treatment - but just doing gentle massage on neck, maybe shoulders and scalp? Or would this just make the sensations worse by manipulating the muscles near her spine etc??

    If I cannot help I would rather be able to suggest alternative treatments to her with someone else rather than just say 'sorry can't help, bye!'
     
  2. Muddi

    Muddi New Member

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    Anybody??

    80+ views and nobody has any idea what treatments could help this lady??
     
  3. poohbear

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    I would try Raindrop Therapy - find a practitioner in your area. This massage is carried out on the spine of the body and the spine of the feet using specific oils. Depending on where the symptoms are at that time the massage is done (usually) from the neck to the base of the spine - usually this massage would be carried out from the base to the neck on anyone who does not have MS. Raindrop Therapy is not like a normal massage and uses specific movements in a set pattern followed by heat to the spine. Hope this has helped - if you need any more information please message me.

    Love and lite
     
  4. Dawnie

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    Hi

    I have clients who have MS too, one of them has problems with her neck too. I find that an Indian Head Massage helps however I would be concerned about not touching her back therefore I would go for a reflexology treatment which will treat the areas she is having problems with , without actually touching the areas

    Dawn
     
  5. hom

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    Hi, if your particular therapy involves massage, I'm not sure why she's contacting you, if she's had such a negative respnse from it before. Maybe a 'touch therapy' isn't the way to go. Homeopathy could help (but them I'm biased!)- but any complementary holistic therapy could potentially, as we're not focusing solely on the condition, much more on the individual. It's important she chooses one that appeals to her, rather than just take someone else's advice, I think. HTH Hom
     
  6. pinkangel

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    Hi Muddi,
    I have a client with MS and she has similar type of issues that you have mentioned.

    She loves reflexology but I have to use a very firm pressure otherwise she says it feels extremely irritating rather than relaxing. She also benefits immensely from essential oils so I use them in the oil burner and blend them into her foot cream too.
    I conclude her treatment with a ten minute reiki boost.

    The MS society quotes NICE guidelines and says that there is some evidence that reflexology, massage, tai chi, magnetic field therapy, fish oils and the combination of some forms of complementary therapy may be helpful for some people.

    Good luck
     
  7. Muddi

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    Thank you so much for the input - I will put these suggestions to her...

    Horn, although I do massage treatments, this is not the only thing I offer so she was asking for advice on what may help her condition, she wasn't asking me for a massage treatment. If she was I wouldn't of posted on here :D

    Again thank you for all your advice and help I will pass everything on and she can take it from there of which route she prefers to go down to help her..
     
  8. Sarah7

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    Muddi,

    I have a client with progressive MS and have been treating him with Bowen Technique. He's finding it easier to walk upstairs and balance is better, though it dips a little if he goes for a while without a treatment.

    Sx
     
  9. David- Maldon

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    I've treated patients with MS using acupuncture with some success, although it's often a long slow process. One of my patients told me of LDN therapy (low dose naltroxone) from which he gets enormous benefit with no side effects.

    As a tai chi teacher for health, I met may people with MS that got tremendous benefit from regular tai chi practise. We taught Taoist Tai Chi, designed specifically to improve health by a Taoist monk on a mission to improve the world. This form gets a poor write up from the Martial Arts community, who seem to miss the point. It was never meant for self-defence, but ONLY to improve health. It certainly helped me after a nasty road accident.

    Best wishes
    David
     
  10. Taliessa

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    Nutritional Therapy for MS

    There is a wonderful book called "Healing Multiple Sclerosis" by Ann Boroch ( an MS sufferer herself ) healing modalities predominantly nutrition plus mindset/positive thinking. Her nutritional programme has worked for my close friend who is now 99% symptom free.
     
  11. IrmaJ

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    MS website, real help

    An excellent site where the majority have MS. Chlamydial Pneumonia & co-infections are addressed here Cpnhelp.org
    Some people have been able to get themselves well again, others have recovered some of their functioning. This site is for pro-active patients.
     
  12. Muddi

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    Thank you - all your replies are appreciated - I will be passing them all on x
     
  13. gdosteopathy

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    Multiple sclerosis is a chronic inflammatory autoimmune disorder of the central nervous system. The basic pathophysiology is that a unknown non-self-antigen mimics proteins in myelin, this antigen is presented on the surface of macrophages associated with MHC II. This stimulates T helper cells to bind to adhesion molecules on vascular endothelial cells, as a result the release of proteinase permits T helper cells to cross the endothelium and enter the CNS,

    The destruction of myelin and in-turn neurogenic function is due to lymphocytes, macrophages and complement within the CNS.

    As such it is unlikely that any manual therapy is going to help MS. BUT as a MS sufferer can have musculoskeletal dysfunction and due to abnormalities within the nervous system, they are possibly more prone to such dysfunctions.

    It is always important to differentiate between treated MS and treating somebody with MS.

    Glen the Osteopath
     
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  14. David- Maldon

    David- Maldon New Member

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    How about another explanation-

    MS fits in the Chinese medicine category of Wei Syndrome, which equates to a dramatic failure of the body's ability to assimilate Qi from food and air, and then circulate the resulting product to the tissues, bringing about weakness, stiffness and tremor, ususlly as a result of Damp-Heat in the interior, coupled with Kidney Qi deficiency.

    The result affects a person on ALL levels, mental, emotional, spiritual AND physical, and when treating the individual we should never separate the condition from the person with the condition.
     
  15. gdosteopathy

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    Osteopaths, Chiropractors etc… are primary health care regulated professionals. No other explanation than what is scientific fact is needed. Informing patients that we can treat their MS would lead to governing body implications. Let alone the fact that given false hopes to patients who are undergoing a difficult and challenging times, only to be let down is simply unethical.
     
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  16. weefeemcdee

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    MS

    Hi Muddi

    I have MS myself, and have a number of clients who also have differing types of MS.

    For the well-being of the person with MS I have found that reflexology has been great. It helps relax the muscles and some people feel re-energised afterwards. The MSers I treat always look forward to their next treatment of reflexology.

    Classic foot reflexology has proved especially helpful for those who are wheelchair bound & suffering oedema in their feet.

    Hand reflexology is especially helpful for those who suffer from tremors or reduced mobility in their hand.

    Good luck

    Fi x
     
  17. Scrivo

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    Hi

    Not sure this will help you, but I am a counsellor, reflexologist and massage therapist, I also have relapsing remitting MS. Personally I have found reflexology, reiki and talking therapies together with loads of rest to be quite effective for me but MS is a very personal condition everybody has very different experiences . I would say that an all around approach , looking at diet, stress management, rest , exercise , complementary therapies together with anything her consultant neurologist can offer (which in my experience is not a lot although they do their best) may be the best approach. I have been diagnosed since 2006 and have been stable and relapse free since 2007 so my approach is working for me at present, For your client I would suggest Reflexology may be appropriate as this will work on the problem areas without her having to tolerate being touched directly on the areas she is having pain.

    Hope this helps a little
     
  18. Principled

    Principled Well-Known Member

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    For the past week, I haven't been able to get the distressing picture of Debbie Purdy out of my thought.
    Right-to-die campaigner dies


    What really upset me the most, was when she said,
    "If somebody could find a cure for MS I would be the first person in line."
    "It's not a matter of wanting to end my life, it's a matter of not wanting my life to be this."

    And I felt like shouting, "But there IS a cure already!"

    I was grateful to find this thread and all the positive and encouraging accounts here and just wanted to add one more type of treatment, in case there should be someone in the same hopeless state, looking for help. I'm not trying to push "religion" at anyone. Christian Science has a solid record of cures of probably every "incurable" and terminal disease and disability over the past 140 years. Many people never go near a church or a Christian Scientist, but simply find healing through studying the universal laws of God, Spirit, in the book, "Science and Health" by Mary Baker Eddy.

    I looked up MS in the CS archives and found 51 accounts of healings of it. In many cases, a follow up medical examination had found no trace whatsoever of the disease and it had never returned.

    Here is a short video (less than 2 mins)


    And this is an article she wrote about it. I found it interesting to learn that she had once been very impressed by the description of the dis-ease that she'd watched on television. We need to be alert to what we accept into our thinking, 'cos it's an awful lot harder getting it out than when it subtly creeps in! ;)


    THE WAKE-UP CALL TO HEALING


    And this is just one more:

    "Healed of fibromyalgia and multiple sclerosis"

    Love and peace,

    Judy


    "Multiple sclerosis healed" http://sentinel.christianscience.com/shared/view/1kkuvubxiva
     
  19. Tashanie

    Tashanie Well-Known Member

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    I think we have to be very careful not to throw around the word 'cure' but I too believe MS can be controlled by the right therapies. Paul McKenna recounts a case of a man who was diagnosed with MS, and started using a self hypnosis cd and self help book written by Paul Mckenna and he ended up fitter than he had been before.

    The power of the mind is only just beginning to be understood...but I don;t think you need to be involved in any formal religion to harness that power. But at a certain point in MS the neural damage is too great . The man Paul McKenna encountered acted at an early stage...and he wasn't actively looking to deal with his MS, just trying to make his life better so he could manage the illness better. I don;t discount the possibility of a miracle that enables someone to get out of a wheelchair and walk.....but I am sure the person has to actively believe such a thing could happen. All true healing comes from within.
     
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