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The end of SETI

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  1. Reikiangel

    Reikiangel New Member

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    derekgruender New Member

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    An interesting article, thank you, Reikiangel.

    From memory, I don't think the bits of old record player and umbrella cost ET $50m, so hopefully he'll still be able to get in touch with his family!

    By the way, what do the staff at SETI, who cost so much, actually do all day????
     
  3. Venetian

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    Yes, interesting. Thanks, Reikiangel.

    SETI was always an interesting thing to try, but astonishingly it never led to any results at all. Yet it's illogical to think that there's no-one "out there" at all, in such a vast universe. So how come they don't use radio waves? It appears as if we think of alien life after our own terms or in our own image. Not one of them uses radio waves (if we believe they are there as I do).

    In short, "aliens" are more alien to our understanding than most people even imagine, it seems.

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  4. Reiki Pixie

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    I've read over the years about how the SETI project was front for covert communications monitoring. I don't know if this is true or not or just a form of paranoia.

    RP
     
  5. swhypno

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    Radio travels at speed of light, which is much too slow for practical interstellar communication. You can't draw conclusions from lack of alien radio messages. You might as well intercept lots of pigeons, find that they no longer have messages attached, and conclude from this that there is no intelligent life on Earth. Whereas in fact of course carrier pigeons have been superceded by better means of communication.
     
  6. Venetian

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    Hmm, I didn't hear that one but who knows?

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  7. Venetian

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    Hi,

    Sorry but you miss the entire point of SETI. The object was never to "communicate", but given that at the speed of light, radio waves could reach us from various stars in just 4 years, or 100 years, or 10,000 years, or a million - such times are just a blink of God's eye. So the point of SETI was to see if such messages (such as Alien Radio One signals, God forbid, or Radio Fours!) were dashing all over the universe. Apparently they are not. The point was never to attempt two-way communication but to see what was happening out there. And that total lack of radio communication itself is very puzzling.

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  8. New Age London

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    The first thing I read about this that makes any sense. Or maybe I´m paranoid too ;)
     
  9. Venetian

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    No, really. It was a clearly obvious thing to do - blatently clear, as pure science. It didn't cost a lot really. There's no way that we wouldn't have done it to find out. To find out if ... let me back-track ... There are untold thousands of radio signals going out from our own planet. Which anyone "out there" could pick up in time. So it was entirely logical for us to do the same - to see if untold planets of other suns had radio waves coming out of a designed nature.

    It is still immensely puzzling, mind you, that there are none at all, so far as we heard through SETI. In fact, you might say SETI did its job. So maybe there is no reason for it to continue?

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  10. Principled

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    I have met Seti investigator Laurence Doyle two or three times and have quoted him quite often on the religion/faiths pages here as well as the scientific ones (I think The nature of Time was the last). Well, part of the answer to your question Derek is studying hump back whales!

    [DLMURL]http://www.seti.org/meet-our-scientists/laurance-doyle[/DLMURL]

    It was Seti that used to use people's computer power at night. it seems to have always been on a bit of a shoe string!

    Judy
     

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