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Discussion in 'Scientific Matters' started by pumpkinn, May 8, 2016.

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Which is your current belief?

  1. I am a flat earther.

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  2. The earth is round!

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  3. Undecided.

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  4. Haven't a clue!

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  1. pumpkinn

    pumpkinn New Member

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    Blimey, nobody has posted a thread in this section for two years!?? :eek:
    Let me revive.

    Warning: If you continue to read this thread, your head might explode. Proceed with caution. LOL

    When they first brought out the Flat Earth theory, I thought...here we go....someone has started the conspiracy to divide us but this video is short and brilliant! The higher you go up the flatter it is.....think about that. May be up is down. Sit down and have a drink. LOL


    The background song is just brilliant choice too. Here is the lyrics.

    "Twilight Zone"
    (somewhere in a lonely hotel room,
    There's a guy starting to realize
    That eternal fate has turned its back on him,
    It's two a.m...........)

    It's two a.m., the fear has gone
    I'm sittin' here waitin', the gun still warm
    Maybe my connection is tired of takin' chances
    Yeah there's a storm on the loose, sirens in my head
    I'm wrapped up in silence, all circuits are dead
    I cannot decode, my whole life spins into a frenzy :D

    Help I'm steppin' into the twilight zone
    The place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned
    My beacon's been moved under moon and star
    Where am I to go, now that I've gone too far
    Help I'm steppin' into the twilight zone
    The place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned
    My beacon's been moved under moon and star
    Where am I to go, now that I've gone too far
    Soon you will come to know,
    When the bullet hits the bone
    Soon you will come to know, when the bullet hits the bone

    I'm falling down a spiral, destination unknown
    A double-crossed messenger, all alone
    I can't get no connection, can't get through, where are you
    Well the night weighs heavy on his guilty mind
    This far from the borderline
    And when the hit man comes
    He knows damn well he has been cheated

    Help I'm steppin' into the twilight zone
    The place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned
    My beacon's been moved under moon and star
    Where am I to go, now that I've gone too far
    Help I'm steppin' into the twilight zone
    The place is a madhouse, feels like being cloned
    My beacon's been moved under moon and star
    Where am I to go, now that I've gone too far
    Soon you will come to know, when the bullet hits the bone
    Soon you will come to know, when the bullet hits the bone
     
  2. amy green

    amy green Well-Known Member

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    Er....one word - astronauts!
     
  3. jnani

    jnani Well-Known Member

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    Clever!
    May be they should have kept going further up?
     
  4. amy green

    amy green Well-Known Member

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    ....which is why I mentioned astronauts!

    Also, when you are out at sea, the curve of the earth can be seen e.g. where the sea's edge meets the skyline.
     
  5. pumpkinn

    pumpkinn New Member

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    Isn't it?!
    I am one of the cowards who believed the footage of round earth. *facepalm*

    Here is one of NASA!!!
    470,000 ft and STILL FLAT !!!


    Now what do we do?! LOL
    Just don't believe everything you've been told.
     
  6. pumpkinn

    pumpkinn New Member

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    Just wanted to add this quote about 'false belief' by Jonathan Cainer who has passed away only last week sadly.
    [​IMG]
     
  7. amy green

    amy green Well-Known Member

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    Feet is not miles...as was suggested, perhaps you should have kept going further up; also you have not addressed my mention of astronauts, e.g. that earth is clearly round seen from space....just like all the other planets.

    So do you share the ancient mentality that, at the (supposedly) edge of the earth "there be dragons?" [​IMG]
     
  8. jnani

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    Why show fragments? Why not the whole picture. Zoomed into a fragment. It is like drawing a line on alarge circle to refute circle. We are up in the space....we KNOW it is spherical! So if they say it is flat so it has to a cube or cuboid....which one they say? Or flat as a sheet of paper.

    It can be explained in basic physics- Sphere is the only shape a liquid is obligated to take due to surface tension. I can pass this one as conspiracy for the sake of it....and there is plenty of that about.
    Most of stuff on YouTube is to gain likes and social interactions....money .so post whacky odd stuff to generate interest, comments...aka money.
    Notice they keep readers in limbo, open to discussions, why not post a video of earth from space station? Earth photos from space are not that hard to find. Na that will mean nothing more to chew over...



    Was a good laught though!
    Keep posting weirdies
     
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  9. caveman

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    It simply looks flat because the camera view is only showing a tiny section of our round planet.
     
  10. amy green

    amy green Well-Known Member

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    Exactly! Perspective is everything...i.e. seeing the bigger picture - literally!
     
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  11. pumpkinn

    pumpkinn New Member

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    So if NASA posted such video, it would be considered legit and end the story?
    You see, this is the point. People still believe the Moon landing footage was real and not created in the studio.
     
  12. jnani

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    For me personally, I feel no inclination to proving or disproving theories about moon landing. System is always about secrecy, lies, control and self service. Moon is far far away, if you know what I mean. Life is immediate.
    Some days, one can indulge in such things and another day, nothing! No response.

    There are dedicated conspirators, mega business....good luck to them! Is world a better place because of the secrets they reveal to people...or is it that there is more fear, paranoia, distrust? Contributing to a pseudo sense of knowledge that "we know what is really going on"...

    The point is- is the Idea of sinister being accentuated or does it liberate people in any way, in any way whatsoever?...they have been making noise for decades about this landing now. None is any wiser. Mystery thickens. Now moon is hollow and made by aliens....endless rabbit hole.

    Ultimately you decide what lifts you up, lightens your spirit, makes you breathe more easy...you go with that or go making a point....no point is ever made. People listen to what they want to, they see what they are ready to see, they grasp, what they can hold...each inner response is a different universe.
    Ultimately settledness is what settles you. For being settled, it only requires you. Because mind as a professional moaner can get upset about most legit of things and facts. Mind is not in a state of churning because of events in the world, it is its default. It is a constant unsettledness. It creates all kinds of scapegoats...

    The point is worth considering( even if one may not want to)- what if there is no conspiracy to expose....what if there is no burden to carry?, what if I find find settledness...everything else finds it too. What if I am the only perturbance in my world....
    Endless directions in this reality, whichever direction you face starts opening up...spontaneously, endlessly....we just keep going deeper and deeper into that particular direction

    The personal crux for each person is -what direction will I enjoy the most? That is the most important point in the entire game of reality.




    Ultimately one has to decide..
     
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  13. caveman

    caveman Well-Known Member

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    I am open to a LOT of conspiracy theories and out there ideas, but some things are just plain daft, with irrefutable evidence showing you they are real/fake. You don't have to do much research to discover the Earth is NOT flat.
     
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  14. amy green

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    OK...have you looked through a good telescope at night? What are all those round things up in the sky I wonder? Why would earth be any different or do you even debate that we are part of a galaxy?

    Nature is consistent in micro as in macro...i.e. the components of an atom....oh look! It consists of all round things! [​IMG] [​IMG]

    I believe in a lot of conspiracies too but I also use my own logic and intuition to sort the wheat out from the chaff.
    There's being open minded and then there's being gullible....
     
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  15. pumpkinn

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    Yes you have a good point. So what if we went to Moon or if 911 was real or not. It's not gonna change your life... or is it?
    It seems waste of time when you end up spending awful lot of time combing through information.
    Yet, it IS important because if we know, if we can truely say what is real or lie then many people who are under the spell of the puppet masters could wake up which release them from slavery, be it not giving children vaccines or stop flouridation of water.
    Truth is a dangerous thing. Many people don't want you to know and just believe what you've been told to take it as face value without investigation. The earth is round, it's irrefutable!!!
    If you reveal the truth you become the target. Many have been killed by so called suicide.
     
  16. amy green

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    I doubt that anyone now would be targeted or killed for saying the earth is flat....the evidence that it is
    not is now overwhelming!

    So, have you looked through a telescope?

    How do you square (pun intended) the earth being flat with fitting into our galaxy that consists of circular planets?
     
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  17. pumpkinn

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    Well people have been killed for revealing truth. I don't know about Flat Earth but you only have to read my post about holistic doctors death. 12 of them in just 90 days!!
     
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    Slowly but surely they are chipping away humanity from us. Look what happened with lightbulbs? We ended up with mercury filled bulbs in every home. :confused: Attack on efficacy of vitamin, herbs and holistic treatments. Yet, things like Monsanto genetic engineering, Round-up is good. How about fracking which will fill your tap water and food with 500+ carcinogenic chemicals. :rolleyes: It's good for the pharma industry since when you fall ill from all the toxins you ingest....$$$ Oops, I forgot to include chemtrails.
    If you try to speak about truth, you are ridiculed.

    I can only pray that many will spot the sleight of hand...
    I am out of this Matrix.
     
  20. amy green

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    No-one could accuse you of being upbeat could they!

    Monsanto no longer use round up but they are a very sinister biotech company (e.g. make aspartame, genetic form of bovine growth hormone injected into cows to produce more milk AND were involved in Agent Orange used in Vietnam).


    Re. lightbulbs. You can buy LED lightbulbs (I got mine from Sainsburys) that do not contain mercury.

    There is only one fracking site currently here in UK - North Yorkshire although it is depressing that this has gone through, i.e. despite the protests.

    Do you know the difference between chemtrails and contrails?



    Sweeping statement about pharma industry and ingesting toxins...(not that I am a fan of orthodox medicine and drugs). You say you are ridiculed if you try to speak the truth well, if you go over the top/dramatise for effect this may well be the case. If you want to be taken seriously I suggest you do away with the scaremongering exaggerations and supply some specific hard facts.
     
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