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  1. scommstech

    scommstech Active Member

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    Hi
    I've called this souls, but am not sure if that's the right description.

    The point is, I was told years ago that we are not a single entity and that there may be other identical copies of each of us in different parts of the world. I was told that we have probably up to 6 copies or souls.

    Has any other Spiritualist heard or believe this. Also once we pass over is it possible that we can resume a relationship with somebody, if that relationship was disrupted whilst on earth.

    I hope somebody can throw some light on this.

    Regards
     
  2. IrmaJ

    IrmaJ New Member

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    It's beyond our comprehension

    My receivings for want of a better word are that when people die their soul/spirit has the experience it needs for it's individual journey/learning, in the same way that apparently we choose our own life situation before we are born, to experience what we need to follow our path. It's like nothing we can possibly imagine because it is so different to our heavy, solid life on Earth. There are very many different experiences to choose or be placed into. ( I'm not sure which. )
    You might find some sense of understanding & purpose through Diana Cooper's Orbs & Unicorns website & books/cds.
    This is not my belief; just the answer I get whenever I ask the question:- What, if anything, happens next?
     
  3. mac

    mac Active Member

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    Speaking as a Modern Spiritualist I'm fairly confident that the first point raised is not to be found in any Spiritualist philosophy or teaching.

    As for the second question, it's widely taught that after our passing we can meet up with almost anyone prepared to meet up with us, irrespective of whether there had been a disrupted relationship whilst incarnate. :) I don't know if this is the kind of relationship you were thinking of?
     
  4. meryem

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    Regarding first point I do not agree with it and about second question I believe a soul can meet a person whom it longed for in the life on earth in certain circumstances.
     
  5. silverhoodedowl

    silverhoodedowl New Member

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    It also depends whether we want to meet up with those souls in which we had a troubled relationship while on the physical plane.

    There are also soul groups including the folks we met while in the physical body.
    Those we felt immediately at home with and friends throughout life.

    SHO.
     
  6. mac

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    My earlier remark(posting #3) dealt with all these points, viz: "As for the second question, it's widely taught that after our passing we can meet up with almost anyone prepared to meet up with us, irrespective of whether there had been a disrupted relationship whilst incarnate."

    Love determines. No-one can force another to meet up with them - each must want to do it. Wholly unlike in this dimension.... ;)
     
  7. silverhoodedowl

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    Sorry,didn't see your answer,Mac for some reason I'm not receiving emails from postings.
    To your answer:-

    All I can say 'Thank God' for small mercies.

    :)
     
  8. mac

    mac Active Member

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    hear, hear to that, J

    If you look in your 'User Control Panel' at your personal settings you can tick a certain box to get email notifications of postings - periodically it seems to get switched off because I've had it happen to me.

    Let me know if you can't find it and I'll walk you through the settings after I'm back from training this evening or tomorrow if you prefer. :)


    K
     
  9. Crowan

    Crowan Well-Known Member

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    I'm coming at this from a shamanic point of view, so ignore if you're not interested, but my experience of the Land of the Dead is that large numbers of souls never get there anyway and those that do will heal/review/plan before setting out into the next life. Those that don't will be sucked into the next life without any healing/reviewing/planning. If the relationships are really troubled (i.e. more than just the usual irritations that we all have), then they can only be sorted if both parties have reached the Lof the D.

    Souls that didn't get there, and are reborn without the healing etc., will be born with all their previous baggage.

    I guess this isn't a general spiritualist view. Am I right?
     
  10. mac

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    absolutely right

    Your ideas are completely different to any learned from highly respected, spiritually-evolved teachers and guides.....

    Some of your notions appear to carry the burden of humankind's ideas.
     
  11. Crowan

    Crowan Well-Known Member

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    Actually, they come from spiritually-evolved spirit teachers. And my own experience.
     
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  12. mac

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    Saying that doesn't change the way they sound to me but, then, Shamanism isn't my field of specialism - Spiritualism is.

    Hence you won't find me contributing in a forum where shamanic issues are being discussed.

    horses for courses.....
     
  13. Crowan

    Crowan Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. I wasn't arguing, just curious. I'm aware that spiritualists do 'soul rescue' which sounds (a bit) like shamanic psychopomping, so presumably things do 'go wrong' with the soul getting where it should. I find it hard to pin down those spiritualists that I know, so I'm taking advantage of people on this forum who, I assume, are prepared to explain. What is it that spiritualism teaches happens to the soul from the moment of death? And do all spiritualists believe the same?

    Didn't mean to irritate. Sorry.:eek:
     
  14. silverhoodedowl

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    Sorry Mac but this is the first email notification I have received for a good while.
    Didn't even know your posting was here.
    Was just about giving up on HP.
    I'll check now to see what I have in Profile.
    Cheers.
    SHO
     
  15. mac

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    No problem when you come seeking information - where I can offer help I'm happy to do so...:)

    To answer your "What.... Spiritualism teaches happens....." question could be a long process and might still miss what you're looking for.

    I would routinely explain in whatever way seemed best suited to the enquirer's knowledge level and/or the reason behind what they were asking. If you specify your particular interest, I'll do what I can to reply in kind.

    I can't answer for what other Spiritualists understand about any specific issue, of course. ;)
     
  16. mac

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    You know where I am if you need help, J. :)
     
  17. silverhoodedowl

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    Checked it Mac,all correct.
    Right postion is 'ticked' so why no email notification being sent.?
    SHO
     
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    Will check back later to see if any answers have been recorded.
    That's if anyone answers my posts.
    :)
    SHO
     
  19. Crowan

    Crowan Well-Known Member

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    Not sure I understand the above comment.

    My reason for asking what happens to the soul on death is - apart from curiosity about what others believe - is mainly that I get quite a few spiritualists on shamanic workshops. When I talk about psychopomping, or soul retrieval on these workshops, I realise that the two practices have different ideas about what does and can happen to the soul. These people have often not delved deeply into spiritualism, but have read a bit and attended spiritalist churches (I supose that's inevitable. If they'd found a deep committment to spiritualism, they probably wouldn't be trying shamanism). As a result, they cannot explain to me what they (let alone anyone else in spiritualism) believes.

    I gather from most of them that everything will be okay after death, and no intervention is needed. That seems a bit 'staying in the comfort zone' - and, as I said, isn't my experience. I do know that the two have different enough beliefs for anyone who takes them seriously to eventually have to make a choice between them.
     
  20. mac

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    Re the above underlined section.

    They are mistaken. Not all individuals will have a 'text book' passing. Some appear to 'get stuck' between physical and etheric dimensions. Keeping things simple at this point, incarnate rescue groups sometimes reach out to these often-termed 'earthbounds' in an attempt to get the individuals to understand what has happened - effectively to realise they're 'dead'. (not a word I generally use but you get my point?) I've kept things simple until I'm sure that's what you're asking about.

    I don't understand the following at all, quote: " I do know that the two have different enough beliefs for anyone who takes them seriously to eventually have to make a choice between them"

    Have I addressed your first point and can you address the one that puzzles me (above) please?

    Then we may be able to move forward to any other queries you have.
     

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