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Big Cat (Puma?) in Coventry

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  1. Venetian

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    Just asking for a little net-search help here. I was just told that in the last few days, a Big Cat was seen 1 mile from where I am, and it was on the front page of the Coventry Evening Telegraph, the city paper. However, initially I've not found it online.

    It's the second time one has been seen, called "a puma" in the woods here.

    I'm interested in the subject for one reason since it all used to be poo-poohed as "nonesense" that there were big cats in Britain, even when police and counsellors had seen them, and armed police were called out. But now big cats in Britain is an accepted fact by the authorities - they are thought to be a breeding stock left over from when in 1976 when a new rule forbade people to keep them - so many just let them loose.

    Point being that just like the thread on UFOs, people and the media once mocked the fact - but now it is accepted that there are pumas/panthers in the British countryside. One lady actually stepped on one in the dark as it slept, but escaped with bad scratches. Another was attacked from behind at night, but her dog protected her while she was unconcious. It is now official that they have been seen in every single English county.

    Anyhow, can anybody find a link to the incident by Coventry (Brandon Woods) a few days ago?

    Thanks!

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  2. Bannick

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    Can't find anything about the article you mentioned but I remember many years ago when the owner of a paintball site I used to go to regularly said there was a big cat on their site. I laughed it off as so many other people have in the past but a few months later actually saw it for myself. When I thought about it afterwards, it wasn't actually that surprising as we were near Greenham Common US Airforce base after the troops had left - some of them apparently brought big cats over with them originally, kept them quiet after the ban but were then a bit stuck when it came to returning to USA so just released them into the wild (a friend of mine married a US serviceman from the base and he confirmed that several of them kept big cats).
     
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    Venetian, if you'd seen a big cat in Brandon Woods it would have been our Moet who is 5 foot from nose to tail tip and weighs over 8 kg!

    No, it's in Ryton woods and supposed to be a big black one. It's probably the ghost of our Tammy who died in November!

    Anyway I'm surprised you live near me...
     
  5. Venetian

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    I noticed that you say you're in Coventry a while back :), but TBH I've often changed address. While on HP I've also been in London, Somerset, and time in India.

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  6. Venetian

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    Thanks. Yes, that's the story. My searches won't have worked maybe as my friend said it was in "Brandon Woods" which are near to the named Ryton area.

    I used to get Fortean Times. In fact I was one of their first subscribers, going waaaay back to I think 1974. An article in that magazine once listed UK Big Cat sightings and not one county hadn't had one. But big cats are usually quite retiring. I once lived in Yellowstone Park, USA, which has pumas or "mountain lions" and never ever saw one, whereas bears would come looking for you! :eek:

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  7. ChrisRams

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    V, Fortean Times have a website: www.forteantimes.com

    and they have an email update subscription service too. Plenty of cryptids still knocking about!
     
  8. Venetian

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    Yes, thanks, I know about the site, but I tell ya, I've been interested in the paranormal, cryptozoology, UFOs and what-not since I was twelve. I feel there's only so much I can usually take in (!), and I'm full up with the information! Few things get solved: the wierd and wonderful just goes on....

    Pals and I kind-of inwardly fell out with FT anyway, when it went so glossy and commercial, probably too frequent to fill well, and then the two great founders sold it.

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  9. Venetian

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    I'm late in posting this so it's too late to find a link. I was on a train 1 1/2 weeks ago and picked up a Metro. A news item there is that a policeman saw a four-foot-long black cat, in daylight, walking along a railway line in Scotland. Ah! I kept the paper. Metro of July 29 actually. He took photos with his mobile and one is reproduced. Looks like a puma. It was near Helensburgh, Argyll.

    So UK Big Cats are certainly still out there.

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  11. Venetian

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    Thanks a heap, Laura. :) that's it.

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  12. Holistic

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    Oh good :D

    It had stuck in my mind actually because when I first saw the title in one of the side bars, I did watch it several times, having read the policeman's comment that it was a cat's movement, rather than a dog's.

    Being an erstwhile judge of dogs, which process involves much observation of how the animals move as well as hands-on examination, I have to say that I share his view that it is a cat. This was particularly evident, IMO, in the few seconds just BEFORE it got onto the rail track.

    Another thing is that, compared to how most dogs are put together, the head is small in proportion to the body.

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  13. Venetian

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    Hi Laura,

    Well, the fact that there are big cats living in Britain doesn't need to be proved. It's accepted by the police now, for example. A while back they (the police!) turned out in force with shotguns to protect a farm from one - in Wales or nearby, as I recall. They've been seen in, I think, every single English county. But they can roam so far of a night, it doesn't mean they live in every county.

    There have, amazingly, been no human fatalities yet.* The nearest to it was (1) a woman who trod on one in the dark while it was sleeping, and it left huge scars on her torso, and (2) a lady walking a small dog at night was attacked from behind and knocked out by a big cat a few years back, but woke to find that her little dog, barking, had kept the cat at bay.

    I live only a mile from where one has been seen.

    *Actually the lack of fatalities is not so amazing. Big cats tend to be shy of humans. They live, for example, in Yellowstone Park, USA, and when I lived there I never saw one or even a trace of one.

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    I saw a panther-like big cat earlier in the year when we had the bad snow, it really stood out against the whitness and wasn't bothered at all by my car. I felt privileged to have seen such a beautiful animal. It has been seen many times in our rural locality, even in the outskirts of town nine miles away - well within a panther's range, but an urban panther? I reported it so the incident would be officially logged.

    Not so long ago, I would have been regarded as nuts!
     
  15. Venetian

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    May I ask what your rural locality is and where you saw it?

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  16. burbeckmfht

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    V - I saw it crossing the A377 a few miles north of Copplestone. It's often seen at Eggesford forest (son's chum's folks live there and have seen it often), and north of there - so the forest may well be the epicentre of about a 10-mile+ radius area, which is about rght for a roaming cat.
     
  17. Venetian

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    Well, it's back, which probably means it was never far away. But over the last two weeks, the black puma's behaviour has changed. Pumas are normally shy of humans and avoid any nearness, but I guess it's getting used to how humanly crowded the UK is. So it's done as foxes, apparently, and moved into the city.

    Several sightings, all within a small area of south Coventry, IN the city. None is likely to be online (?) so no links I can find. Boy, you know how your moggie likes to sharpen its claws on wood(en furniture)? A family here woke to find enormous claw marks on a tree in their garden. And it's been seen very near their house. There are small coppices nearby, so they wonder if it dwells in them.

    That England has big cats is now accepted, so I guess - so what? My interest is a hang-on from a number of years ago when the idea was still controversial, disputed, and placed along with the Loch Ness Monster.

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  18. Energylz

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    My other half's dad saw one on Sunday on his way back home to N.Staffs (Moorlands area). He's seen them before, but in a "I'm sure I saw a..." kind of way. This time however, he got a good look at it and it was definitely a large black cat with a short tail, and moved like a large cat too.

    Like you say, I don't think anyone can really deny their existence in the wild now.

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  19. Venetian

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    Well, so once disputed as a myth or imagination, it's accepted that they're out there now.

    Yesterday the local rag had an article with two photos of it "now taken". Cheekily, only towards the end did they say the photos were taken a year ago. Interesting though - or it's getting less interesting I suppose, the more common these sightings get, and pumas or panthers become as much a part of our countryside as rabbits and cows? It seems the way we are headed.

    Anyway, a lady last year took photos (two shown) from the window when she was in the maternity ward of University Hospital, Walsgrave. It's by a largish country park, Coombe Abbey. She says it came back in the fields outside the hospital every night for a week (she'll mean evening). So regular patterns. She brought others to see it. "A few people doubted me but curiously no one had the nerve to get a closer look". People in the ward would wait at the windows each evening, for it to come along.

    I agree there's no great mystery now. She says: "We used to drive past a guy in Cradley Heath who kept tigers and lions and what do you think happened to all of them? They got released into the wild."

    P.S. Local papers aren't known for imaginative headlines. But I do like, "Panther gave me kittens". (Maternity ward ..)

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    Don't suppose you've got a link to the story / photo's online venetian?:)
     

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