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Angelic Reiki - How is it different?

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  1. *serenity*

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    Hello and welcome to you angelmagik![sm=hug.gif]

    I am in devon, but I will contact my teacher and find out for you.[sm=nature-smiley-008.gif]

    Watch this space!:D

    Thankyou for you kind and as always very profound words reikilight![sm=1kis.gif]

    Omega1 - please don't take any offence. No-one here means any harm,certainly not me. Agreeing to disagree is sometimes the best route - we really are all different and I was only trying to speak from my experience - as calmer requested. I understand that somewill not resonate with angelic reiki, but I really really do and I know others will too! [sm=hug.gif]

    Much love to all XXX[sm=love-smiley-009.gif][sm=angel_sm030.gif]
     
  2. mysterious me

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    Ok so how many varieties of baked beans are there to choose from?
    This is a marketing ploy!
    Do you like plain and simple or prefer the ones with glossy coverings?
    Each unto their own. Reiki is a pure spirit and that was my reason for going the Reiki route into healing and not the NFSH (IE didn't involved the politics of religion) but we are all different.
    Remember ethics - if you don't know or haven't tried, avoid decrying it.
    I haven't needed 'extra gloss' myself but there may come a time when I do.
     
  3. Reikilight

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    Lol Holistic! I did get a little carried away didnt I, still I never have been short of things to say :)

    Thank you Serendipity for your kind words [sm=1kis.gif]right back at ya!

    Very slightly off topic of Angelic Reikibut hopefully not too far......I love Reiki (as do we all!) and I have really searched for what felt right for me, after completing Reiki 1 and 2 with a wonderful Reiki Master I suddenly felt I was searching for something else but I had no idea what, when I stumbled across what I needed I immediately knew it was what I had searched for. I now love the way I practice Reiki because it suits me down to the ground but that is just it, it suits me.

    How much more exciting is a chocolate selection box compared to a plain bar of choccy! How much more exciting is the world because of its varieties.

    ;-)
     
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    From what I know of Angelic Reiki (which honestly isn't very much) and traditional Usui Reiki, one of the main differences to me is that with Usui Reiki, one does not need to *believe* in God, Angels, Spirits, etc etc - infact one can not believe in anything except for (through realisation of) the fact that Reiki works. I personally could not do Angelic Reiki as I do not believe in Angels (especially the concept of specific Angels who everyone calls on). I believe in spirits, guides & *beings* of different spiritual advancement levels which can help & be present during a treatment (as I have experienced this) but as I am not religious, & have no reason to believe in angels, this version of Reiki seems rather fanciful to me.
    Also, if one *does* accepts the existence of God & Angels etc, then I have to say I agree with what Healistic said:
    Anyway, I'm not saying that Angelic Reiki doesn't work or isn't effective, but as a non-religious RM, it just personally doesn't make any sense to me.

    SS
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  5. Healistic

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    Hi All

    Thought you might like to read this?

    Reiki energy is always present, always real, pure and always perfect the way it is. Impurity only enters the world of Reiki when we try to use the energy for own petty, egoistic ends. Reiki is and will always be part of the collective heritage of the human race that can not be owned by an individual or a certain group. It remains what it is : a wonderful gift that is given to us by existence, life or god- whatever you may be inclined to call it. Let’s come together and honor it in this spirit.
     
  6. omega1

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    Very well said!

    It still amazes me, after all this time on Earth, that humans in all their imperfection, still believe they can improve on God's creation (For God you can substitute whatever term, word or phrase you choose that fits in with your belief system). Seems pretty arrogant to me.
     
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    [​IMG]Amen to that. Very well said Omega1[​IMG]
     
  8. Reikilight

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    Yes Omega I have to agree too! I think whatever way works forthe individualis great and its nice that people can pretty much find a way of healing to suit them (as there are so many ways out there) but it doesnt make sense that one energyis better than another as is sometimes claimed, I truly believe it all comes from 'source'

    :)with blessings, Reikilight
     
  9. Alfred11

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    Hi everyone,
    Speaking as a Takatan "Usui Shiki Ryoho" Reiki Master of 10 years who loves Reiki, I still marvel at how a Japanese namelends so much legitimacy toa Universal gift that has been practiced successfully by thousands of European, Native American, African, and Asianhealers for centuries before any non-Japanese heard the word. I suspect it has to do with Traditional Chinese Medicine and ChiKung healing becoming popularized since Nixon's trip to China (who heard of Reiki before the 1980's?)convergingwith the New Age coming into vogue in the 80's and 90's. I'm not questioning Reiki's effectiveness, but people had to be willing to try it first, right? I imagine its prolific spread through attunements, especially in the 90's with the internet, has given the name "brand" status also.

    My great aunts and grandfather (African American, 2nd generation) were wonderful healers: could light a gas stove burner with their bare hands! They did lots of healing, but they kept their giftswithin the family to keep from being branded nonChristian voodoo priestess orwitches practicing black magic or, even worse, superstitious bumpkins! Back then being nonChristian was a great big deal, and being called "pagan" was a public insult. How we love (and love tohate) our names for things! Of course, no one was interested in a Japanese anything until the 70's anyway, because of the stigma of WWII.

    Whatever the namesare that lend an "air oflegitimacy" today, it's too bad it isn't just the results on average and learning/adhering to basic universal standards of ethics andpracticethat are the measuring sticks. Then we could stop using Japanese words for things Sensei Usui had nothing to do with and just call it whatever kind of energy healing (Angelic, Devic, Ascended Master, etc),and the consumer could just refer to thehealer's batting average, and pick whichever healer and/ormethod name they feel drawn to.

    Blessings,
    Alfred
     
  10. omega1

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    I think Alfred the problem lies with the interpretation of the words surrounding Reiki. Usui Reiki is a specific healing method discovered and developed by Usui-sensei. This method uses energy for healing purposes and for spiritual growth and development. This method has at its core a connection process and a set series of techniques and methods that were developed by Usui-sensei. This is a unique spiritual energy healing method, unique to the founder Usui-sensei.
    The fact that there arenow and always have been many ways of channelling and working withenergy for healing purposes does not make Usui Reiki any less unique, nor does it make any of thesemethods Usui Reiki.
    I think there should be a clear separation and distinction between Usui Reiki and any other form of energy healing so any potential client will now exactly what they are getting when they go to any energy healer or teacher.
    Any one can, and many have deveoped their own way of working with energy, so they are not in effect practising Usui Reiki, so they should say so and not refer to their method as Usui Reiki or in my opinion not refer to their method as Reiki. This will surely reduce any confusion.
     
  11. Energylz

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    Hi omega1,

    We have to remember that things do develop over time. Who can honestly say that they are practicing Reiki in exactly the same way that Usui sensei did? Who actually knows exactly how he practiced it? It's all been passed down through teachings and word of mouth so, of course things will change. If someone buys a Ford Escort and then changes the Exhaust for a sporty exhaust that makes lots of noise, should they no longer call it a Ford Escort? Although lineage is not of that great an importance personally to me, I think that if the lineage goes back to Usui sensei then there is nothing wrong with calling what we do "Reiki". To be more specific and call it Usui Reiki, or Takata Reiki or Jikiden Reiki etc. would be when you are rightto argue that the practice the person is doing should resemble the teachings of the original method, but still we have to remember progression, both through beliefs and personal growth, and allow for that, as long as people are clear that their own methods are a personal adaptation of the original teachings. We all have a personality, and we can't stop that personality from being a part of what we practice.

    Of course, if someone in, for example, America swims with Dolphins and claims that they have created or channelled a new system of healing from Dolphins and they call this "Dolphin Reiki" (yes I know there IS a Dolphin Reiki, but I'm just using this as an example, no reflection on the real one) then perhaps we could say that the use of the name "Reiki" in this context is misleading as a) it hasn't originated from Japan and b) it bears no originating resemblance to Reiki that has originated from Japan. Of course, who are we to stop people calling things what they like. ;)

    I agree it can be confusing, but with 200 or so healing modalities out there, what can realistically be done about it. If it's healing energy and it works then, whether you believe it comes from the same "source" or not, it is still something that works.

    Love and Reiki Hugs
     
  12. omega1

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    I think this is not really relevant now as there is so much information available to us. We can all practise Usui Reiki in the manner of Usui-sensei if we choose to. It may take a great deal of research and effort to really get to Usui-sensei's teachings, but it is possible.

    I think if anyone wants to 'add their mark' to their Reiki teaching, that is fine, but they should say so to their potential students. It is not difficult to say this on their publicity materials.

    One thing I am concerned about though, is the potential to exploit vulnerable and needy people through the creation of some variant of Reiki purely as a means of making money. There are many forms of Reiki now, as you say many hundreds and the list grows. How many of these are genuine healing therapies and how many are money making scams?
     
  13. Energylz

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    And how many plumbers are REALLY plumbers and not just cowboys out to scam people? People like this exist in all walks of life, you can't stop them using the name.

    Love and Reiki Hugs
     
  14. Holistic

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    It's not difficult, and many do ... they give accounts on their websites as to when and how they have developed their Reiki teaching ... including some very well known names inReiki which I think perhaps I won't list here!

    Many 'varieties' of Reiki are self-evident by their very titles ... you could say that Angelic Reiki is one such. Surely no one could see that title and not assume that angels were somehow involved, regardless of one's level of belief in angels.

    As Energylz says, you can't stop them ... you (we/one) can only attempt to educate and in some instances rectify.

    In between the two extremes perhaps are those teachers who pass on what they have been taught, genuinely and in all innocence, withoutbeing aware of 'add-ons' until they do further research and learning.

    Holistic
     
  15. Alfred11

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    Agreed. This, in fact, was my point. :)Usui Reiki is unique. In almost every other instance (at least outside of Japan), use of the word "Reiki" doesn't even have anything to do with Usui or any kind of Japanese ethos, practice, spiritual identity, etc. So why use a Japanese word when there is no Japanese connection, much less a connection to Usui Reiki? The only connection is that it has it that it is a spiritual lifeforce healing method that can be passed on by attunement, and might or might not have associated symbols (usually not symbols associated with Usui either!)

    So why areall these other non-Usui (almost entirely), non-Japanese methods even calledReiki? THAT was the point I was dealing with. Perhaps my previous missive wasn't as clear to anyone else as if felt it was to me when I was writing and reading it: it wouldn't be the first time... ;)

    Blessings,
    Alfred
     
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    Hi Energylz.

    You have made a very good point there. After all when reiki was introduced the west then IMO it was possible that changes were made to suit our westernculture.

    IMO Usui was empowered direct from the spiritual source (or call it your own name), whilst others were attuned by physical beings.

    IMO reiki is so adaptable by both understanding and growth and that we all have the ability to channel (If you believe in guides and angels use them) any form of reiki simply by asking and having the intent to believe. So you could say that Mikao Usui gave us that ability?

    William Lee Rand says "It is a joy to see how wonderfully Reiki is unfolding. As we focus on Reiki and allow it to guide us, we discover greater levels of harmony and balance in how it can express through us. What at first seemed like a conflict is becoming a beautiful integration of complementary styles. This will lead to the possibility of even greater levels of health and well being for ourselves, our clients and the world around us. May we all be allowed to choose ever-increasing peace, freedom and love".

    The above quote and many more quotes (Not listed) are all based initially on the Reiki that Usui gave us.
     
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    I can't answer for anyone, but to hazard a guess I would say that it is purely a marketing ploy.Reiki is awell known healing system and using the term Reiki gives credibility and lends an air of Eastern philosophy to any such system, regardless of whether it has any connection to Usui Reiki or not.
    I personally think it is wrong to call any of these made-up systems Reiki.
     
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    Ah but me thinks the plot doth thicken? [link=http://liteweb.org/ark/index.html]http://liteweb.org/ark/index.html[/link]

    Different angel, this one Archangel Michael He is is not a death angel.
    Unlike Metatron who is the supreme angel of death
     
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    Who the hecky peck is Ray Key?[sm=rollaugh.gif]
     
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    I dont have any experience of Angelic Reiki. I did meet a guy once who was an "angelic reiki master" which I thought was a funny title for a person. I may have been interested in what he had to say about it for a second until he took out picture of sai baba and tried to give it to me saying "sai will look after ya" nothing would get me moving faster than that!

    The only other person I know who is interested in this is obsessed with angels and fairies and accredits everything in his life ( no matter how simple) to the aforesaid beings. He had previously attended a diana cooper angel course so this may have something to do with it.

    I must agree with Omegas view that this is another cynical marketing tactic employed to attract vulnerable people to learn this "bigger, better, harder, faster, more powerful, more enlightening" form of reiki.

    I know lots of people who learn one type of Reiki after another, looking for solutions to their problems and never finding them. These are usually the same people who do not put what they have learned into practice. They want to learn and have the benefits of what they have learned but generally dont want to put in the effort to work on themselves. I meet so many reiki people who never actually use reiki to heal themselves. I can't believe why they would go to the trouble and expense of learning something, only to never use it. They will usually complain of ailments and then when I ask how they have been getting on with their treatment, they confess that they haven't been treating themselves. This mentality is beyond me.

    Anyway, I suppose what I am trying to say is, Reiki is reiki. Once you have learned it, use it, regularly. If one believes in angels, fairies, or otherwise, each to their own, simply ask for their assistance before you do the treatment. There is no need to learn a seperate type of reiki to do this. My view is that there is no substitute for regular self healing, I also feel that more knowledge and insight can be gained through this than you can learn from any course or teacher.

    Donna
     

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